windows vista ultimate eu antitrust

Does anyone know if there will be an Ultimate N version or if the normal Ultimate version be available to european customers ? As an end customer I would prefer the non-N version, not because I like or use the MediaPlayer but I generaly feel that software that has been post-processed usualy has more bugs than the original version, and I prefer not waiting for a specialized version of a patch/servicepack to be released.
As seen on http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp most versions have a N version to comply with the EU ruling in the AntiTrust case against Microsoft.
I know this is still speculative as I have yet to see any official word from Microsoft about the versions, but any thougths, speculations or facts are appreciated.
~ Tom Espen

It's likely... but not entirely sure. It's enough to have an N edition for the Home Edition because that's the main one that will be sold in Europe as a lot of households just want a computer with an operating system on. Also just having the ones they have "announced" will satisfy the European Commision and stop hassling Microsoft about it so much :op
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--- Original message follows --- "Tom Espen Pedersen" wrote in message

Does anyone know if there will be an Ultimate N version or if the normal Ultimate version be available to european customers ? As an end customer I would prefer the non-N version, not because I like or use the MediaPlayer but I generaly feel that software that has been post-processed usualy has more bugs than the original version, and I prefer not waiting for a specialized version of a patch/servicepack to be released.
As seen on http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp most versions have a N version to comply with the EU ruling in the AntiTrust case against Microsoft.
I know this is still speculative as I have yet to see any official word from Microsoft about the versions, but any thougths, speculations or facts are appreciated.
~ Tom Espen

Like anybody is gonna buy it. :) -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

It's likely... but not entirely sure. It's enough to have an N edition for the Home Edition because that's the main one that will be sold in Europe as a lot of households just want a computer with an operating system on. Also just having the ones they have "announced" will satisfy the European Commision and stop hassling Microsoft about it so much :op
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--- Original message follows --- "Tom Espen Pedersen" wrote in message Does anyone know if there will be an Ultimate N version or if the normal Ultimate version be available to european customers ? As an end customer I would prefer the non-N version, not because I like or use the MediaPlayer but I generaly feel that software that has been post-processed usualy has more bugs than the original version, and I prefer not waiting for a specialized version of a patch/servicepack to be released.
As seen on http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp most versions have a N version to comply with the EU ruling in the AntiTrust case against Microsoft.
I know this is still speculative as I have yet to see any official word from Microsoft about the versions, but any thougths, speculations or facts are appreciated.
~ Tom Espen

Hehe to set the record straight. I want to buy the OS when it comes out, and I prefer not getting a post-processed OS since these are in my opinion alot less stable than the original version. Yes I am aware I can just download MediaPlayer and have the virtualy same OS but have you ever tried a localized version of Windows and compared it to the English version? The English version is much more stable on every install.
And in my opinion the EU AntiTrust case is hogwash.. sorry you're doing a too good job, we're going to punish you for that....
~ Tom Espen
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

It's likely... but not entirely sure. It's enough to have an N edition for the Home Edition because that's the main one that will be sold in Europe as a lot of households just want a computer with an operating system on. Also just having the ones they have "announced" will satisfy the European Commision and stop hassling Microsoft about it so much :op
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Tom Espen Pedersen" wrote in message Does anyone know if there will be an Ultimate N version or if the normal Ultimate version be available to european customers ? As an end customer I would prefer the non-N version, not because I like or use the MediaPlayer but I generaly feel that software that has been post-processed usualy has more bugs than the original version, and I prefer not waiting for a specialized version of a patch/servicepack to be released.
As seen on http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp most versions have a N version to comply with the EU ruling in the AntiTrust case against Microsoft.
I know this is still speculative as I have yet to see any official word from Microsoft about the versions, but any thougths, speculations or facts are appreciated.
~ Tom Espen

I completely agree. However, I do think that sometimes Microsoft is getting a bit too powerful...
I think that's why their imposing sanctions, because I've heard that Microsoft are more powerful than the British Army and the European Commission, believe it or not and their simply scared of them getting too big. All they have to do is stop everything, and the world grinds to a halt.
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--- Original message follows --- "Tom Espen Pedersen" wrote in message

Hehe to set the record straight. I want to buy the OS when it comes out, and I prefer not getting a post-processed OS since these are in my opinion alot less stable than the original version. Yes I am aware I can just download MediaPlayer and have the virtualy same OS but have you ever tried a localized version of Windows and compared it to the English version? The English version is much more stable on every install.
And in my opinion the EU AntiTrust case is hogwash.. sorry you're doing a too good job, we're going to punish you for that....
~ Tom Espen
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message It's likely... but not entirely sure. It's enough to have an N edition for the Home Edition because that's the main one that will be sold in Europe as a lot of households just want a computer with an operating system on. Also just having the ones they have "announced" will satisfy the European Commision and stop hassling Microsoft about it so much :op
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Tom Espen Pedersen" wrote in message Does anyone know if there will be an Ultimate N version or if the normal Ultimate version be available to european customers ? As an end customer I would prefer the non-N version, not because I like or use the MediaPlayer but I generaly feel that software that has been post-processed usualy has more bugs than the original version, and I prefer not waiting for a specialized version of a patch/servicepack to be released.
As seen on http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp most versions have a N version to comply with the EU ruling in the AntiTrust case against Microsoft.
I know this is still speculative as I have yet to see any official word from Microsoft about the versions, but any thougths, speculations or facts are appreciated.
~ Tom Espen

If there is one, it should of course be called Windows Vista Penultimate.
"Tom Espen Pedersen" wrote in message

Does anyone know if there will be an Ultimate N version or if the normal Ultimate version be available to european customers ? As an end customer I would prefer the non-N version, not because I like or use the MediaPlayer but I generaly feel that software that has been post-processed usualy has more bugs than the original version, and I prefer not waiting for a specialized version of a patch/servicepack to be released.
As seen on http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp most versions have a N version to comply with the EU ruling in the AntiTrust case against Microsoft.
I know this is still speculative as I have yet to see any official word from Microsoft about the versions, but any thougths, speculations or facts are appreciated.
~ Tom Espen

A bit different: You're too rich, share with us if you want to sell in Europe.
However, I believe Microsoft might not have had at least part of the issue if they respected their developers a bit. It's ultimately unfair when they get into competition with developers producing software for their operating system.
"Tom Espen Pedersen" wrote in message

Hehe to set the record straight. I want to buy the OS when it comes out, and I prefer not getting a post-processed OS since these are in my opinion alot less stable than the original version. Yes I am aware I can just download MediaPlayer and have the virtualy same OS but have you ever tried a localized version of Windows and compared it to the English version? The English version is much more stable on every install.
And in my opinion the EU AntiTrust case is hogwash.. sorry you're doing a too good job, we're going to punish you for that....
~ Tom Espen
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message It's likely... but not entirely sure. It's enough to have an N edition for the Home Edition because that's the main one that will be sold in Europe as a lot of households just want a computer with an operating system on. Also just having the ones they have "announced" will satisfy the European Commision and stop hassling Microsoft about it so much :op
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Tom Espen Pedersen" wrote in message Does anyone know if there will be an Ultimate N version or if the normal Ultimate version be available to european customers ? As an end customer I would prefer the non-N version, not because I like or use the MediaPlayer but I generaly feel that software that has been post-processed usualy has more bugs than the original version, and I prefer not waiting for a specialized version of a patch/servicepack to be released.
As seen on http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp most versions have a N version to comply with the EU ruling in the AntiTrust case against Microsoft.
I know this is still speculative as I have yet to see any official word from Microsoft about the versions, but any thougths, speculations or facts are appreciated.
~ Tom Espen